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Compulsory Language & Pursuit of Bilingualism Has Been An Abject Failure At The Expense Of The Taxpayers …
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Hi,

I somehow doubt the self interested fanatics desperately trying to prop up Welsh by making it compulsory in many areas of life in Wales, to pander to the fanatical minority would want the lessons learned by the Irish to be known in Wales.

Even FoI applications for FACTS as to how OUR money is squandered in Wales are sidestepped, rejected and avoided by the Regional Assembly!

An associate of mine sent me this comment:

Many FOI’s later, no answers provided by the Welsh Government on the language expenditure. Simply reiterating ‘We are a bilingual nation, and both languages are treated equally” – no cost ever given to me. If you use Irish example, the costs should be similar

Probably they are ashamed of their actions or perhaps they are in fact criminal and they don’t want them inspected. Maybe much of it is going in their own pockets via expense accounts and family and friends appointed to the jobs corruptly created!

Trying to get figures for the cost of trying to create bilingualism are likely to be similar to the costs of doing so in Eire. The population of Ireland being 4.8 million and that of Wales being 3.1 million I guess, in default of the Regional Assembly for Wales having the integrity to publish accurate plausible figures for translation services for the Welsh speaking minority, bilingual sinage for the minority – efforts to force Welsh onto the carriculum of all schools and to totally bilingualise ALL subjects in ALL schools by the end of 2022, bilingual printing, bilingualising the NHS in Wales etc. etc.

Not to mention the aim of forcing 1,000,000 to speak Welsh by 2030 a dream for which absolutely no one seems able to answer the question WHY!

Nor how can Wales justify squandering some £80 million in subsidies propping up Welsh in S4C, which only occasionally has programs with an audience of over 30,000 & where much of their output has a ‘technical’ audience of zero. Also the subsidies for BBC Radio Wales which is experiencing falling listenership, now at its lowest for 40 years!

On this basis and learning from Ireland’s failure, minded that Ireland did not even have a long land border with England nor extensive daily crossing of said border for work and pleasure, NHS treatment when Wales failed to provide etc etc – Ireland’s failure is estimated to cost around £1.2 Billion a year.

Little wonder the crachach controlled #Labour/Plaid Regional Assembly is too ashamed to publish clear figures as to how they are squandering our money! Money which is funding them, their friends, family and associates at the expense of the majority in Wales.

Ireland has learned the hard way that compulsion, force & subsidy seeking to teach their ancient minority language is probably the fastest way to ensure its failure – Wales of course is too bigotted and driven by a tiny minority to learn from the mistakes of others and would rather breed hatred and division in Wales than nurture their valuable ancient language.

Compulsory Irish has failed in the Republic, at huge cost to taxpayers

When it was suggested to Eamon de Valera in the 1950s to give up on imposing Irish on children in schools, he replied: ‘The experiment is not over yet’

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When it was suggested to Eamon de Valera in the 1950s to give up on imposing Irish on children in schools, he replied: ‘The experiment is not over yet’
Robin Bury Published: 01:42 Saturday 08 July 2017 
Sinn Fein’s blueprint for a stand-alone Irish language act has parallels with Irish language policies imposed in post-independence Ireland.
Today’s reaction to the act from people in the Republic of Ireland might be ‘Been there, done that, failed’.
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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar welcomes DUP leader Arlene Foster to Government Buildings in Dublin.
Varadkar claimed to support the diversity and decency of Canadian pluralism, yet seems to support an Irish language act in defiance of the spirit of the Belfast Agreement Taoiseach Leo Varadkar welcomes DUP leader Arlene Foster to Government Buildings in Dublin.
Varadkar claimed to support the diversity and decency of Canadian pluralism, yet seems to support an Irish language act in defiance of the spirit of the Belfast Agreement At huge cost to the taxpayers.
Today it is estimated the cost of force- feeding Irish is €1.2 billion a year, which includes teaching, printing government publications, road signage, maintenance of Gaeltacht areas and recruitment of Irish translators.
After over 90 years of imposing policies to make Irish the native tongue of Ireland, less than 20,000 people are native speakers.
The 2016 census found that 70% of the population ‘can’t speak or don’t speak Irish’.
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Robin Bury
Robin Bury Why? It’s simple:
for pragmatic reasons people do not want to speak it and turned their backs on it well before independence, unlike the Israelis who chose to speak Hebrew and protect their language and culture.
It was Archbishop McQuaid who told Eamon de Valera in the 1950s to give up on imposing Irish on children in schools as when they came home, their parent(s) spoke to them in English. De Valera replied, ‘The experiment is not over yet’.
I suggest 50 years later it is well over. Much has changed in Ireland in recent years as successive governments came to realise their draconian policies were not achieving their objective. Irish is still compulsory in schools up to Leaving Certificate (approx. A level exam) but the last Taoiseach, Enda Kenny, called for compulsion to stop at Junior Certificate level (approx., O level exam). But resistance from hard liners prevailed, partly for monetary reasons.
Irish is no longer required in the civil service and the Garda Siochana, though people in the legal profession must be proficient. But the three National Universities insist on Leaving Certificate level Irish to gain entrance, not Trinity College, Dublin nor DCU.
What about the experience of Protestant ex-unionists in post-independence Ireland? Although a few championed the language, prominently Douglas Hyde, the great majority had no interest.
Children evacuated from church youth club just minutes before bomb exploded They were opposed to compulsion which came in 1922 at national school level and 1924 in secondary schools.
The Canadian historian, Kurt Bowen wrote that as far as Protestants were concerned, ‘No other policy provoked such widespread and sustained criticism’.
Sinn Fein wants to make Irish an official language. Arguably this will lead to it being used as ‘an ideological weapon for nationalist and fundamentalist Catholics, feared by Protestants’ in Ireland, in the words of Irish historian Tom Garvin. And in the early years of the Free State the language was used as a weapon to transfer authority.
According to Myles Dillon in 1922, ‘All the cultural institutions of the country were in the hands of the Protestants …
All must now be changed: a new administrative class was to be established, and the language was one of the means to be used… I believe that far from helping the language movement, this turning of the screws has destroyed its value as a form of allegiance.’
Does Sinn Fein refuse to accommodate the reality of an English speaking Northern Ireland?
The 2011 census tells us that only 3.74% of people aged three and over ‘speak, write, read or understand Irish’. And as for Ulster-Scots, there are 0.94% in this category. So why bother including it in the act?
Tokenism. When the Free State government implemented policies to make Irish the native tongue after 1922, only 17% of the population spoke it.
Desmond FitzGerald, Garret’s father, thought it was too late to revive it and was proved correct. In effect, it had become the dying language of a rural peasantry in outlying areas of Ireland. I suggest it is not so much a dying language in Northern Ireland, as a language for scholars and activists.
Finally, who is to pay for all the proposals in the act?
The long suffering English taxpayers, who cares less. No attempt is made to cost employing civil servants, having Irish spoken in local authorities, courts, PSNI and setting up Gaeltacht areas.
Simon Coveney, the new Fine Gael Minister for Foreign Affairs, no doubt supported by his Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, seem to support this proposed act, in defiance of the spirit of the Belfast Agreement.
Leo Varadkar claimed to support the brilliant diversity and decency of Canadian pluralism when he just met Justin Trudeau. I live in Canada, an Irish-Canadian, and say to him, get real Leo!
• Robin Bury is the author of ‘Buried Lives: The Protestants of Southern Ireland’ (from The History Press Ireland).
He is the son of the Church of Ireland Dean of Cloyne, was born in India and grew up in Co Cork.
He was educated in Ireland where he was taught Irish for 10 years.
He was a teacher and later worked for Coras Trachtala, the Irish Export Board, and now lives in Toronto, Canada

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Regards,
Greg_L-W.

NB:
in the interest of accuracy material in the main text in blue was written by someone other than myself.

When in black text the wording ‘Welsh Language’ means the ‘Language of the peoples of Wales’ and is therefore the majority language ie ‘English’

The ancient language of parts of Wales, varied as it is, as spoken by a tiny minority in Wales is called ‘Welsh’ or ‘the ancient Welsh language’

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